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Wheat and Tares

BettyJ
1 post
Dec 20, 2007
8:19 AM
Mike, explain Matthew 13:30 in the "Parable of the Sower"
The gathering of the tares and binding them into bundles first vs the wheat into my barn.

DOVE777

snowman
80 posts
Jan 12, 2008
7:41 AM
Heh Betty I'm am not ignoring you. I have not been on the site for several days..at this present time... I'm am seeking the father for oneness and communion.

He has spoken many things to me over the last month. I will continue to lean my ear to the door.

You are very patient and kind as I remember you to be when I ministered there in the 90's at your church. I will try in the next few days to address you question.

your eternal friend, Michael

goodnewsinc
56 posts
Jan 18, 2008
7:13 PM
Matthew 13:24. Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25. But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28. He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29. But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

THE ENEMY is the devil

TARES are evil spirits, images of the beast

BUNDLES

1. Matthew 12:43-45, a total of 7 or 8
2. Luke 8:29-30, a legion is

le·gion (l¶“j…n) n. 1. The major unit of the Roman army consisting of 3,000 to 6,000 infantry troops and 100 to 200 cavalry troops. 2. A large military unit trained for combat; an army.

SEPARATION AT REAPING

Luke 17:34. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 37. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

All (hu)men wheat are drawn to him who was lifted up! All tares (demons) will accumulate in the pit for the burning!

THE BARN

Ecclesiastes 12: 7. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

John 17:24. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

It is a mistake to teach a doctrine contrary to the Word of Jesus!

Matthew 17:5. While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Romans 3:3. For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? 4. God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Can you say, "Amen"?!

John,
GOOD NEWS, Inc.

Last Edited on 18-Jan-2008 7:16 PM

eagle777
35 posts
Jan 22, 2008
12:23 PM
To understand the written word of God, the Bible, you must understand that the words that proceed out of the mouth of God are spiritual words because God is Spirit. If we are to understand God we must be able to understand spiritual words. Paul said in 1 Cor. 2:12,

“We have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15But he that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.”

Any child of God that relies on their own ability to understand the word of God and denies the Holy Spirit is the only one that can reveal the true meaning of the Word limits their understanding of what is being said. It is impossible for them to fully understand what is being said. The Lord wants us to depend upon Him for all our needs. In Jeremiah 10:22 it says,

“I know, O Lord, that a man’s life is not his own; it is not for man to direct his steps.”

Paul said in Rom. 10:3,

“For they were ignorant of God’s righteousness and going about to establish their own righteousness, and have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.”

There are Three Dimensions of understanding to what God speaks. The Tabernacle that Moses built foreshadows this. The Outer court foreshadows the Feast of Passover. This is where we come to the alter and confess our sins and have the blood of Jesus cleanse us of all unrighteousness. This Dimension is where most Christians want to live their lives and be comfortable just hoping that they have been saved from going to hell and hoping that they can live their lives good enough to have God allow them to go to heaven.

In this Dimension self-righteousness is rampant and they put themselves again under bondage to the laws of do’s and don’ts. It is here that they spin the word of God to meet their carnal minds understanding of His Word. Jesus told another parable on sowing in Mark 4:20 where He said,

“Others, like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop, some thirty, some sixty or even a hundred times what was sown.”

In the First Dimension we progress in our learning the things of God from not knowing any thing to a thirty percent level of understanding.

The First Dimension understanding of Matt. 13:37-43 has been very well described by John in the above posting. This is the carnal mind understanding of this parable.

The Inner Court or Holy Place represents the Second Dimension in the Tabernacle. It represents the Feast of Pentecost. Pentecost means fifty. It is at this level that you are halfway to where the Lord is leading you into maturity. This is where most Pentecostals and Charismatic’s hang out. They have received the baptism of the Holy Spirit and learn how to minister to others and have the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truth. They can progress in their learning from the thirty percent level to the sixty percent level but can go no further unless they press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of for them. Again, many Christians want to settle down here and stay. There is a lot of mixture in this Dimension. It is here that everything is Man and God. Duality!!

The Second Dimension understanding of Matt. 13:37-43 is as Jesus said to them,

“The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
40“As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.”

Men have tried to twist this scripture to say that at the end of time the Lord will send forth His angles and they would take the righteous out of this world in the rapture and then the angles would destroy those who are left behind. Even in this second Dimension understanding of this scripture it says that the Lord will send forth His angels and they would weed out of His Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. The righteous are going nowhere but they will stand out and their light will shine.

There is a Third Dimension that is foreshadowed in the Tabernacle. This Dimension is the Most Holy Place and represents the Feast of Tabernacles. In this Dimension there is nothing that is not God. There is no mixture. There is no man and God. It is all God because we will have progressed to oneness with Him.

The Third Dimension understanding of Matt. 13:37-43 is as follows. Jesus said in Luke 17:21,

“Neither shall they say, Lo Here! Or, Lo there! For, behold, the Kingdom of God is within you!”

Since the Kingdom of God is within us then the parable of the farmer sowing seed in his field must be talking about a field that is within us. That field is our mind. The Holy Spirit inspired men to write the Bible and as we study the Bible the seed of God is being planted in our hearts. The problem is that our carnal mind is the breeding place for the doctrines of devils and of men and there arises from these seeds of devils and men produce tares, which cause us to be confused. At the end of the age in which we are now living, God is sending forth His angles, which in the original Greek means messengers, or ministers) and they are speaking an anointed word which gathers these tares out of His Kingdom which is in us and burns them out of our minds so that we can turn to the Lord and our light be seen through out the world.

Love you Betty ___________________________________________________________

“But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.” (Isaiah 40:31)


Eagle777

Last Edited on 25-Jan-2008 5:37 AM

snowman
98 posts
Feb 06, 2008
5:34 PM
Heh Betty I am very close to answering you on these wheat and tares. Wheat=positive words/tares=negative words..But while men slept=do not let your faith go to sleep. The enemy that comes is the carnal negative sight walking man. He always speaks a bad report..he only comes when your faith goes to sleep. The sons now are the angels..the reapers..we separate the neg. words from the postive words. We are the lake of fire that burns out those negative words and we give the carnal(devil) man NO PLACE!!!! It is our teaching ablities that enables us to separate the wheat from the tares. They are all words but some of them need to be burned out of our vocabulary!! This is a quick short explanation for now.

more later, much love snowman



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