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Did "Jesus" sin?

Estella
25 posts
Nov 28, 2007
9:52 PM
I was having a discussion with someone last night - and told them that I "didn't know" if historical "JESUS" had sinned... and my thought was - "Jesus" - as a "man" may have/probably DID sin? But - I don't know... and then I thought - if WE are as CHRIST - (after waking up/being born again/receiving the MIND OF CHRIST) ... well - what’s the problem with questioning whether or not "JESUS" as a man sinned? I don't know. Is it "blasphemous" to question/wonder?

They are saying that "Jesus" and "Christ" are the same...and yes, I understand that to a point... but what about "Joe Blow" and "Christ" are the same? Or "Whoever" and "Christ" are the same?

I don't know if anyone here gets my drift?

Buick Brother
163 posts
Nov 28, 2007
10:19 PM
Hi Estella,
Yes, I can see your wave as your words consolidate into a snow drift here on the snow site. Let's play in the snow, you sweetheart. singer of Love songs to Jesus!

Well, the scriptures say that Jesus was tempted in all ways like us, yet without sin. It is hard for our little minds to comprehend that. As I thought about it, what came to me was a person in a play or a movie.
He/she plays the part of a murderer, and we see it taking place on the stage or screen. Later it is discussed about how gruesome that person was that did the murder. Did that person commit murder? Am I saying the world is a stage and we are the actors? Shakespeare said that!

Jesus is our prototype! We follow Him! From death to resurrection to ascension. Did he sin when He fell with the cross? Does a loving Father help us when we fall? Of course. He is Love! You are playing your part. At this point it is a difficult part to play, but rest in the Father's arms. You may not care at this point, but there may be an academy award awaiting you when the role is finished. It is finished!! You and the Father are ONE!! Rest in the finished work! Love, Tom

Estella
26 posts
Nov 28, 2007
11:31 PM
sending you hugs and smiles :-)
Buick Brother
164 posts
Nov 29, 2007
6:07 AM
Nice! They are welcome!!
Anonymous
Guest
Jan 03, 2008
11:06 AM
Tom, I enjoyed your fun in the snow, as well as how you described acting on the stage of life. I have certainly thought about this question before, and simply thought He became sin, who knew no sin, and accepted this as truth. I see Jesus as our Savior, our example, and our way to the Father. I think of Him on the cross, and know that I could never understand all he had to go through for us, as well as the price he paid to fulfil his purpose. He said "not my will, but thy will," as he prayed, and as I think about these words, I see his will might have been different then the will of our Father. However, He chose the will of the Father. I personally do not believe he cheated, and that he had special abilities to be able to do the will of the Father. Understanding Mary was overshadowed by God and knowing Jesus was this seed, does not make me think He could easily find His purpose. I recall He sweated drops of blood, as he sought Father, and somehow I believe when He stated it is finished, and took all of our first Adam nature into death with Him, He overshadowed all of us, as darkness fell over the earth. It is my opinion that each one of us, house the Christ, and just as Jesus denied his flesh to come into His purpose, we have that same ability, as we awaken to our Spirit, which is the Lord from heaven.

Although this has been quoted as funny, I quote it as truth. Sin is not sex, drugs, and rock and roll, or all the things we think about when we think of sin. SIN IS MISSING THE MARK! We all have a purpose and a call while on earth, and the things we allow to keep us from our call or our true purpose, will ultimately keep us from doing the will of our Father. Jesus was the first Son, and many sons will follow Him in an understanding of having dominion over the earth,(Adam nature)and they will fulfil the will of Father, and find their true purpose.

I surmize, we spend too much time debating issues that really do not have anything to do with our purpose. I think Tom condensed it, when he wrote about actors on the stage of life. I too, have questioned these things in my walk, and concluded opinions. I somehow have come to separate some of the teachings I grew up learning. I was taught to put alot of emphasis on things we called sin. I heard gossip about things certain people were doing in their lives, and these things were described to me as sins. I started to separate the good from the bad, the sinners from the righteous, and although this may be over emphatic, I became all things. As life happened to me, the things I endeavored, brought about judgment and many points of view. I now conclude our judgment is in our past, and the things we do not have dominion over will cause us to miss the mark, the most important thing in our lives. When we understand the finished work, we will see the end from the beginning. All of our earth acting out, will be burned in the fire in the realm of seed, time, and harvest. Only those things done for Christ will stand the test of time through eternity, and it is our purpose that will produce the hidden Christ within all of us. Did Jesus sin? I say Jesus did not miss the mark, and I am so thankful for that. Love In Christ, Gayle

eagle777
41 posts
Jan 30, 2008
6:23 AM
Gayle, I really liked this statement by you on your post.

“Although this has been quoted as funny, I quote it as truth. Sin is not sex, drugs, and rock and roll, or all the things we think about when we think of sin. SIN IS MISSING THE MARK! We all have a purpose and a call while on earth, and the things we allow to keep us from our call or our true purpose, will ultimately keep us from doing the will of our Father. Jesus was the first Son, and many sons will follow Him in an understanding of having dominion over the earth,(Adam nature)and they will fulfill the will of Father, and find their true purpose.”

The Greek word we have translated as ‘sin’ is Strong’s G264, hamartano (ham-ar-tan'-o)
Perhaps from G1 (as a negative particle) and the base of G3313; properly to miss the mark (and so not share in the prize), that is, (figuratively) to err, especially (morally) to sin:—for your faults, offend, sin, trespass.

Paul said in Phil. 3:7-14

“7But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. 8Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,9And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 11If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. 12Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. 13Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.”

The Mark for all of us is the life that Jesus showed us how to live. He is our example and our goal setter. Anything short of His life is missing the mark. We have been taught a false Gospel of good and evil. We have majored in what the works of the flesh are and minored on what the works of the spirit are. We judge everything as to whether we believe it to be good or bad. We put ourselves under condemnation because we refuse to believe and walk in faith that we have been born of God and cannot sin as long as we are led by our spirit.

I have posted a rather long post on the Message Board section on, Lamb Of God, takes away the sin of World. I explain the difference between the spirit, the soul and the body. I hope this will help you to understand what is happening inside your life. I agree with Gayle and what Paul said in 2 Cor. 5:21,

"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."

Jesus did not sin, however, He became sin on the cross. Not His sins, but He became our sins. He was the snake on the cross foreshadowed by the children of Israel having to look at the snake on the cross in the wilderness.

Dave

Last Edited on 31-Jan-2008 6:38 PM

Other
41 posts
Jan 30, 2008
7:09 AM
Thank you Eagle;

Very well put, that has spoken volumes to me personally.

Again Thank you.

I bid you the peace and love of our Father.

Regards.

OTHER.

goodnewsinc
70 posts
Jan 31, 2008
6:35 AM
Bravo, Eagle777! Very well explained!

John,
GOOD NEWS, Inc.



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